Smoking investigations begin.
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Smoking investigations begin.
Guernsey is set to begin an investigation into banning the display of cigarettes in shops.
It follows a similar plan which is already happening in Jersey.
The Health and Social Services Department have already created a strategy which looks at a number of anti smoking initiatives.
The plans could see the prison smoke free and a ban on lighting up in cars.
The Department say they're working with Jersey on the new consultation.
More laws , is this a step to far ?
It follows a similar plan which is already happening in Jersey.
The Health and Social Services Department have already created a strategy which looks at a number of anti smoking initiatives.
The plans could see the prison smoke free and a ban on lighting up in cars.
The Department say they're working with Jersey on the new consultation.
More laws , is this a step to far ?
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Smoking advertising has been banned in mosts arenas such as sport, tv and cinema so the way the manufacturers have got around this is by having huge displays, which are probably more effective, at point of sale. It is not unusual to see a huge cigarette display which serves little purpose other than advertising so I do not think it is a step too far, nor banning smoking in prisons (you can't drink in a prison so why should you smoke) nor from cars.
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AND THEN LET'S BAN ALCHOHOL DISPLAYS,THEN FOOD WITH TOO HIGH A FAT CONTENT AND DON'T FORGET ANYTHING WITH TOO MUCH SALT ECY ECT ECT
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WELL SINCE YOU PUT IT SO SUCCINCTLY, LETS DO THAT, BUT LET'S NOT FORGET IF YOU STUFF YOU'RE FAT FACE WITH HIGH FAT PRODUCTS IT DOES'NT HURT ME, IF YOU EAT LOADS OF SALT IT DOESN'T HURT ME, IT YOU GET DRUNK AS A SKUNK AND FALL OVER GUESS WHAT, IT DOESN'T HURT ME BUT IF YOU SMOKE AND BREATHE ALL OVER ME AND POLLUTE OUR AIR YES IT DOES HURT ME SO WHY THE H**L SHOULD YOU CAUSE ME HARM, IF YOU PUNCHED ME I'D SMACK YOU BACK BUT I AM OBLIGED TO BREATHE IN YOUR EXHAUST PRODUCTS.
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God it must be great to be perfect EH.
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from an ex smoker whilst i can't stand the smell of peoples smoke i can't say that advertising was the cause of my starting to smoke.it was as today peer pressure. .nanny state comes to mind.
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would be interesting to know what is happening in other countries re advertising of tobacco.what happens in new zealand,australia,south africa,thailand for example.
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If there's one thing that gets right on my T%^$ it's anti smokers.
what more do you want??? we have to smoke in the open air we dont somke in any public areas so why the hell would we breathe all over you??
what more do you want??? we have to smoke in the open air we dont somke in any public areas so why the hell would we breathe all over you??
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As an ex-smoker - I'd rather be in a room full of smokers than stuck behind an Island Coachways bus.......that is disgusting and allowed by the States.....
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Agree with that.. smells pretty bad as bad a the smell of fresh tarmack
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May the "Pipe of peace" blow over everyone :Steve1:
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depends whats inj the pipe of peace eh lol :Steve1:
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Oh well - if it's peace you want - may the bluebird of happiness fly up your nose (or some such orifice)
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: make fun1 : I,m indignant at the mere suggestion
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Jigman wrote:If there's one thing that gets right on my T%^$ it's anti smokers.
what more do you want??? we have to smoke in the open air we dont somke in any public areas so why the hell would we breathe all over you??
Spot on Jigman well said that man.
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i'm not anti smoking jigman as i used to smoke 40 or 50 a day.i just can't stand the smell ,of stale smoke.i also wish my beloved would give up.
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Bug the word you're looking for is in-dignified LOL
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I am the same Thistle, cant stand the smell on my clothes, want to give up but have no will-power or time. I have tried.
I just cant understand why they want to hide the displays ok they can dumb them down a bit, as said earlier where will it stop??
I just cant understand why they want to hide the displays ok they can dumb them down a bit, as said earlier where will it stop??
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because nurse says - if we see them - we will want them - remember out of sight out of mind doh!!!!!! I despair of ever getting my free will back in one piece!!!! I gave up and I still see ciggies but they are not for me now......so I am not tempted!!!!
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Thistle wrote:would be interesting to know what is happening in other countries re advertising of tobacco.what happens in new zealand,australia,south africa,thailand for example.
The advertising of cigs has been banned in thailand for around 4/5 years they are still for sale in the shops but previous to the ban you could openly see them,they are now covered and not on display.
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Its never been a issue to anyone if you want your cigs you just ask.
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jigman,i gave up whilst unconscious in the ICU at the peh .so i guess i did it the easy way.i see the adverts all the time and like karma would never want to start again.as i have said before its not advertising that starts people smoking imo .it is peer pressure and because some people just want to.
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Digger asks "more laws, is this a step too far?"
Well look at it from another angle. People are free to smoke, I have no problem with that. My problem is sharing what they smoke when I do not choose to smoke.
The government is slowly edging people away from smoking, or trying to anyway, much like it stops people speeding in cars. Bearing in mind buying cig's and driving a car has some financial perks for the Govt' so why should it stop people, perhaps it is dangerous to them and others?
It could be that they are concerned, doubt it. It could be that the annual medical bill for smoking related illness is huge and a drain on finances when it could be reduced. How much does the following cost each year and I know that you do not have to smoke to get these diseases but the risk is considerably higher for the smoker,
lung cancer and cardiac arrest. heart disease. cardiovascular diseases called thrombosis which can either be coronary or cerebral as in a stroke or paralysis, cancer which does not only affect the lungs but the throat and mouth as well. This includes cancer of the bladder, cancer of the kidneys and cancer of the pancreas, chronic pulmonary diseases emphysema and chronic bronchitis, high blood pressure, fertility problems, asthma, and eye damages such as cataracts and loss of eyesight, dental problems, ulcers, and over all physical appearance.
Lastly, smokers are not the only people susceptible to smoking related illnesses. Second hand smoke or those people who are exposed to the smoke breathe out by smokers are can also develop smoking related illnesses which can be as fatal with that of the actual smokers. Babies and young children with smoking parents are the most affected by second hand smoke.
Almost like playing Russian roulette with a loaded gun or dodging the traffice whilst wearing a blindfold.
Well look at it from another angle. People are free to smoke, I have no problem with that. My problem is sharing what they smoke when I do not choose to smoke.
The government is slowly edging people away from smoking, or trying to anyway, much like it stops people speeding in cars. Bearing in mind buying cig's and driving a car has some financial perks for the Govt' so why should it stop people, perhaps it is dangerous to them and others?
It could be that they are concerned, doubt it. It could be that the annual medical bill for smoking related illness is huge and a drain on finances when it could be reduced. How much does the following cost each year and I know that you do not have to smoke to get these diseases but the risk is considerably higher for the smoker,
lung cancer and cardiac arrest. heart disease. cardiovascular diseases called thrombosis which can either be coronary or cerebral as in a stroke or paralysis, cancer which does not only affect the lungs but the throat and mouth as well. This includes cancer of the bladder, cancer of the kidneys and cancer of the pancreas, chronic pulmonary diseases emphysema and chronic bronchitis, high blood pressure, fertility problems, asthma, and eye damages such as cataracts and loss of eyesight, dental problems, ulcers, and over all physical appearance.
Lastly, smokers are not the only people susceptible to smoking related illnesses. Second hand smoke or those people who are exposed to the smoke breathe out by smokers are can also develop smoking related illnesses which can be as fatal with that of the actual smokers. Babies and young children with smoking parents are the most affected by second hand smoke.
Almost like playing Russian roulette with a loaded gun or dodging the traffice whilst wearing a blindfold.
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people will still smoke whether there is advertising or not.making it illegal to sell ciggies to under 18 year olds didnt work so why will hiding advertising work.if people choose to smoke that is their business.as a non smoker i just try to avoid areas where people are smoking.after all pubs,restaurants are all non smoking so where are you breathing in other peoples smoke.even my house is smokefree .hubby smokes in his shed as do visitors who are still smokers.
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Hiding cigarettes will take them into the 'mysteriously forbidden' class for youngsters and we all know what that will mean!!! Almost all those 'related illnesses' can be applied to other causes, one that comes to mind is drinking.....My father never smoked a cigarette in his life nor did he frequent pubs and smoky places and as a London Bobby was outdoors most of the time - he died in his 59th year with flu (his lungs couldn't cope) on the other hand my aunt who lived with us smoked 30 a day and drank 1 litre of whiskey every 3 days...dying at the age of 87!!! Ciggies never turned anyone into an aggressive killer as booze and drugs can.......each to his own I say :(
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Jigman wrote:If there's one thing that gets right on my T%^$ it's anti smokers.
what more do you want??? we have to smoke in the open air we dont somke in any public areas so why the hell would we breathe all over you??
Its legal to somke jigman :)
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