"Ban sale of legal highs" UPDATE

A Jersey politician wants the sale of 'legal highs' banned.

A stall at Jersey Live this weekend sold substitutes for drugs like cocaine and cannabis.

Senator Jim Perchard says it's questionable whether this is legal in Jersey and he's asked the Health Department to look into it.

Several young people needed hospital treatment after taking a mixture of alcohol and 'Spice'.

Senator Perchard says it was grossly irresponsible to open such a store (from CIonline)

What is your view?

BAN THEM... :x

i feel very strongly about this subject.....they are dangerous and so many youngsters think they are safe just because they aren't illegal.....

BAN THEM....... :evil:

HA! I know sooo many people that use/take "spice" and i swear to god i wouldn't be able to tell the difference between them being off their face on that or illegal stuff. Mad eh?

If it does the same as illegal stuff it should also be banned, I had an ex member of staff go really strange on Spice and it cost him his job in the end.

He now is off the stuff and seems to be doing OK where he is now

I agree BAN the stuff right now . What is wrong with the powers that be in these islands take the right step now make it illegal to be in possession of it , and stamp on those who supply it.

Sorry to sound naive, but what is it, and what does it do?

The fuss about Spice is silly as far as i can tell. looking at the ingredients, i can find nothing with notable pschoactive properties, just mainly marsh-mallow and wild lettuce. and anyway most of this is available online so a ban wouldn't really make much difference...

The fact is not only are some people who use cannabis also using spice as a cheaper alternative at times but many more people who would not use cannabis because its illegal are using spice and it obviously has real affects on people as I have seen usually normal people acting very strange.

better be carefull when i cook cos i use spice in some of my pudding

futuatcher wrote:The fuss about Spice is silly as far as i can tell. looking at the ingredients, i can find nothing with notable pschoactive properties, just mainly marsh-mallow and wild lettuce. and anyway most of this is available online so a ban wouldn't really make much difference...

tell that to parents whose children have ended up in hospital....
its a drug and can do damage.....BAN IT !!

As a parent my self i am shocked that these legal highs are so easy for youngsters to buy not just on the net but over here. How can the people who sell these spice sleep at night ?

if you feel spo strong about these things lobby the states to bring in a new law ..it might take a few years to do .but at least you would have done something..after all one day it might be your child or grandchild

getting a new law passed is almost impossible.

20 years ago I used to supply shops with things like Lemsip, Paracetamol etc we had been selleing them for years and then they stopped us because the Guernsey law was written years before and had a list of ingredients that were allowed to be sold in shops, if it was not on the list you could not sell it.

As Paracetamol, Ibuprofen etc was not invented when the list was done we had to stop selling anything with these things in, it even got stupid and we were stoped selling Lemon, Glycerin and Honey Cough Medicine because Lemon Oil was not on the list.

Lemon oil is OK in cakes, sweets in fact anything but as it was not on the medicines list we could not sell it.

The medical Officer at the time and various BOH people told me that it would take 2 or 3 years to get the law changed to bring it in line with the UK and it would be done as a matter of urgency as a shop could actually sell a pack of 10,000 Aspirins but not 24 Parecetamol, no Lemsip, or any Cough Remedies.

At the end of the day it should have been a simple enough thing just to say the law in Guernsey would be the same as the UK no complicated law to be written Just As the UK.

Here we are 20 years later and the law has still not been changed.

wayside wrote:...At the end of the day it should have been a simple enough thing just to say the law in Guernsey would be the same as the UK no complicated law to be written...

Copy and paste legislation isn't the answer, but it's a fact that it's been done in Jersey.

Read through the planning law and there's a section with a very odd sentence; if you google the odd sentence it turns out somebody literally copied and pasted from a section of a UK planning document (specific to Winchester I think) and accidentally copied the page number and footnote at the page break of the paragraph they copied![/off topic]

When it comes to medicine, Copy and Paste as you call it makes sence as small Islands could never afford to test these drugs, and surely a an up to date UK law has to be better than a 50 year old Guernsey law when we are talking about medicines that are changing weekly.

Shops and supermarkets are strictly regulated not only on what they can sell but the amounts in packs, here we have an outdated list with no restrictions on amounts.

humm touchy subject eh, i know thise that do it and those that did,and each has a different story and experianace with it ,same could be the same with legal drugs as thats all it is at the end of the day,i know those that have a bad reaction with asprin,n if we go down the path of banning then shud we band glue? and other mind altering substances?or shud we do something different and take those people who do it and gve them a direction and meaning to thier lives and take away the monotamy of thier boring lives?
in other words take the Apathy out of Guernsey,it can be so friggin boring eh
last point if u take the Legal stuff away then ur be welcoming the Illegal which is best ? control or none?

A mum from Jersey who says her son's addicted to legal highs wants to warn other parents.

She told us her son's been smoking Spice for six months and it's ruining her family.

The woman - who doesn't want to reveal her identity - says other mums should look out for it.

Spice is a blend of herbs and plant extracts said to have similar effects to cannabis.

Users describe various effects from bad handovers and bad vision to paranoia and mood swings.

Director of Jersey's Alcohol and Drugs Service, Michael Gafoor says people should avoid using a substance that hasn't been fully tested.

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Banned in Jersey now, so will Guernsey follow suit?

I sooo hope so !!

Would those who advocate a ban extend it too all legal highs? I am thinking of alcohol, nicotine, caffeine etc etc

nicotine i would....:)

Agree with KK, ban nicotine.