BBC3 "Can I get Legally High"

Did you see the program, shows that legal highs are not safe, Guernsey did get a big mention about its position about legal highs,

Did it damage Guernsey in its description of the Island the place to get Legal Highs " A Hot Bed" in fact

What do you think?

I missed it. I hope it mentioned that the stricter the drug laws then the more likely kids will experiment with untested chemicals?

Did Not see it but If it said Guernsey were banning legal highs I cant see that it could do us any harm

I saw bits of it....
but i don't think it can harm our tourism...they said Guernsey had banned legal highs so thats not a bad promotion.....

Did the say it was going to be repeated tonight?

from what I heard about it they were saying how easy it was to get the stuff even though it has been banned

They did it wrong instead of tell the outrlets you can carry on until existing stock is sold they should have given them 2 weeks to get rid of it, then a total ban.

What the heck is a 'legal high' ?

They are still selling it in the shop on the other side of the street to me (Brock/New Road St Sampsons) I know because all the cars pull up and park on the yellow line outside of my house......nice little earner if the Traffic Poilice could be bothered!!! Yesterday I could not get in my front gate because a van had pulled up half on the yellow line and half on the pavement - lady coming in the opposite direction on the pavement...her expression said it all!!!!

kingcolemk wrote:What the heck is a 'legal high' ?

A Substance which was freely available which emulated the real thing i.e. cannibis, crack, heroin etc etc ..... now they find out that even though they are legal the effects can, in some cases, be worse than the real thing......Guernsey banned them a little while back, but the shops that sell them were pre-warned and stocked up very well!!!

karma wrote:They are still selling it in the shop on the other side of the street to me (Brock/New Road St Sampsons) I know because all the cars pull up and park on the yellow line outside of my house......nice little earner if the Traffic Poilice could be bothered!!! Yesterday I could not get in my front gate because a van had pulled up half on the yellow line and half on the pavement - lady coming in the opposite direction on the pavement...her expression said it all!!!!

There is no way that they are still selling existing stock

I stand corrected......the cars on the yellow line outside my house just like to annoy me and stop me getting in....(while running into the shop) - Wayside I bow to your superior knowledge and it really does not interest me one way or the other.....

wayside wrote:There is no way that they are still selling existing stock

ha ha ha

do you know how much was ordered in before the ban on commercial importation ?

the amount of stock the guy has should see legal highs on the streets for a long while yet.

the only reason any of this is a problem is because of the misguided 'war on drugs'. The chemicals in legal highs were born in research labs, and are tested by small groups of 'psychonauts', a scene which really didn't want mass marketing. Due to the criminalising of cannabis and ecstacy users, generally non intensive consumers who get bored after a couple of summers, demand grew and before you know it, there is a sales explosion, as there is with any new recreational drug that hits the clubs and parties.

Leaving out the lab drugs like ecstacy, humans have been indulging in cannabinoids and other plant alkaloids (tea anyone?) since humans have existed. You would think that if there were any major social and health problems it would be well documented. It isn't and the recent studies that have chosen the outcome before the tests (that cannabis causes schizophrenia) have proven utterly inconclusive other than the obvious 'it may be bad for people with pre-existing or poetntial menatl health problems'. A bit like anything that may cause fatal allergies or similar.

We don't ban peanuts, we advise that peanuts may give you an unwanted reaction.

It is precisely because of the very sound argument that tried and tested 'ethnogenic' 'drugs' have been used with little ill effect (if respected) that the legal high manufacturers have marketed. The ingredients stated on the back of spice are not the main active ingredient, even though lotus and what have you are very very mild psychoactives in unextracted form, but they are all recognisable as 'harmless' and so doubters are swayed.

If it were not for ridiculously inefficient drug laws then this subterfuge and peddling of little known toxins would never become mainstream.

Once this range has been banned, another will surface that will take hold until the legislators' slow machine get round to ban some more.

EDDIE wrote:

wayside wrote:There is no way that they are still selling existing stock

ha ha ha

do you know how much was ordered in before the ban on commercial importation ?

the amount of stock the guy has should see legal highs on the streets for a long while yet.

My son told me there was at least a year's supply!!!! so guess the yellow line parking is here for a whole lot longer!!!!

I had an employee at a place I no longer have and he went strange to say the least until one day he came within an inch of sticking a knife into someone, this was caused by a so called legal high.
several months later after he had learnt a few lessons spoke to me and he appologised for the problems he caused and admitted that legal highs were a big problem to him and he had to stop.

I am not against canabis or at least not against what used to be canabis, whats in it today is anyones guess and I am told its more potent than it was in the 60s 70s.

I do have a problem with chemicals that are in these things and the use of cleaning agents that can be used as mind altering agents that were talked about on the TV recently costing 10p a shot and being put in peoples drinks.

Any product that is sold for the purpose of getting you high should have to be licenced.

Any product that is sold as something else cleaning products etc should contain something to stop it being used as a drug powerful bitter taste etc.

on the radio a deputy I think said when the medicines law is changed, this I think is the same law that about 30 years ago when I had to stop wholesaling Paracetamol products and many all natural products to shops because things like lemon oil was not on the medicines list, we were told 2 years to change it, I know 20 years later it was still the same and probably still is.

If they called these legal highs medicines they could ban them under the existing laws except in chemists

Whoever gave retailers the option to purchase a large amount and sell it months and possibly a year after the ban should loose there job